The Divided States of America
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Troy Skaggs
I've told people that national dissolution and Balkanization is the kindest option on the table for America. The responses are always emotional so tied to that tear jerker called "The United States" are most folks. Even if they haven't read the other tear jerker called "The Constitution", they will swear it's the most benevolent document created by man, such are our schools. I live in South Bend, Indiana the former feifdom of our current Secretary of Transportation. It's a failed city by my standards. All of the gold on Notre Dame's dome can't fix this place. It's progressively worsening with regards to crime, drugs and homelessness. This country boy is getting out.
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Dmitry OrlovReplying to Troy Skaggs
Troy Skaggs, so, I take it you would like to be an unpaid farm hand? If so, I think I have a situation for you. It's in Kentucky, though. Kentucky is a good choice because, looking at the map above, it will be one of two states (the other is Virginia) which will stop being states almost immediately.
Troy SkaggsReplying to Dmitry Orlov
Dmitry Orlov, Good observation. Kentucky and Virginia are the original haunts of the Skaggs, itinerant farm labor for generations until the Depression forced them to Illinois. I help harvest tomatoes in late summer and after expenses don't have much left, so sustenance labor isn't ruled out.
Sean Thomas
So you don't think Stephanie Kelton and the rest of the MMT brain trust can save America by printing even more money?
Dmitry Orlov
Sean Thomas, MMT is neither modern, nor monetary, nor a theory and who the heck is Kelton anyway?
Sean ThomasReplying to Dmitry Orlov
Dmitry Orlov, She's been chosen by Wall Street to front for their hyperinflationary scheme. https://stephaniekelton.com/
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James R SmithReplying to Dmitry Orlov
Dmitry Orlov, the collapse of the US will be no country for old men. Retirement will be sudden and violent, I think. Or lingering and unseen once they no longer have any physical possessions.
Michael DowdReplying to Dmitry Orlov
Dmitry Orlov, No. Anticipation of Russia takeover as you suggested.
Don Hynes
Good writing and thoughtful insight. Immanuel Velikovsky wrote that dinosaurs have been discovered frozen in ice with green grass still in their mouths. In other words, they never knew what hit them. I fear this destiny is what awaits most US citizens, as they wolf down their holiday “food” and assume that our mutual parade will continue. It won’t.
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Pamela Storer
Don Hynes, Hmm. A little bit of a case of "missing information" here I think. Not dinosaurs, but the wooly Mammoths and other similar kinds of beasts, much later than dinosaurs, and found in a virtually flash frozen state across Northern Siberia and Canada. Cause in truth unknown, but assumption without evidence - so common in modern day so-called Science, is that there was a sudden climate collapse into an ice age wiping out the animals of the North in hours.
https://christiancourier.com/articles/the-woolly-mammoth-and-the-ice-age
James R Smith
The borders of US states are so silly and arbitrary that I really don't see the USA breaking up in just such a way. I see it in much more regional reactions, but knowing how irrevocably corrupt and degenerate the US is (and always has been), who knows?
I figure the fractures will be more ethnic than according to the artificial boundaries of states. Majority African descent areas, Scots-Irish southern Appalachia, Protestant New England, Jewish stetls, reformation of a few indigenous nations, return of Texas and the southwest to Mexico, Pacific northwest to Canada, Alaska back to Russia, Hawaii restored to the natives, etc.
The dissolution will be far more complete and irreversible than a possibly temporary fracture along those riculous state borders.
Mexico's former borders, for those interested. Hey, Mexico as an economic superpower. It could happen.
Dmitry Orlov
James R Smith, the borders of failed states are always silly and arbitrary. They are wherever the locals decide to set up some road blocks. After that, they are shaken out as criminal gangs fight over territory.
Andrew Blanchard
I’ve read a lot of rumors about the alleged 150-year term for Alaska that would have expired in 2017. I say alleged because I’ve never seen it in writing anywhere. Is there some super-secret Tsarist archive I’m not aware of? Where did this rumor start?
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Andrew BlanchardReplying to Dmitry Orlov
Dmitry Orlov, thank you for the explanation!
Istvan AlmasiReplying to Dmitry Orlov
Dmitry Orlov, reverting Alaska back to Russia would be some poetic justice, since we are told so much about "strategic defeat" and "decolonization" i.e., wanting to break up Russia into multiple statelets (per cretin criminally insane folks like Kaja Kallas and Andrzej Duda, and the likes on the DSA side), while these western countries can't even manage their own little affairs.
Istvan Almasi
This is a very interesting essay on some of the internal and external processes leading to a DSA, which many of us who don't live there
were either unaware of until recently or poorly informed about some relevant aspects. Thank you for another eye opener!
were either unaware of until recently or poorly informed about some relevant aspects. Thank you for another eye opener!
The timing is hard to forecast, other than "sooner than later". There are many external processes at play, of which some facilitate the collapse of the US$ (and the euro for that matter; the de-dollarization trend is gaining momentum by the minute), while others might delay it somewhat. Other than China holding huge $ reserves as treasury bills, there are other trillions of $'s owned cumulatively as reserve (not some stock option...) by huge corporations, families, countries, who would try to save the dollar to avoid their savings evaporate suddenly.
The numbers suggest that the collapse-inducing forces are winning, especially the "internal ones" are out of control. This process is simply unstoppable. Again.
Sean Thomas
Istvan Almasi, According to Google AI (I'm too lazy to look any further), the volume of the FX market is $7.5 trillion per day. The insiders will have ample opportunity to bail into Yen, Yuan. HK dollars, Reais, Rubles, etc when the time is right. The bag holders will be stuck holding the bag.
Spercepolnes
Back in 2015 I wrote a statement to some friends saying the USA would probably be broken into 3-4 "States" by around 2025-26 - I had been reading Dmitri's work at the time. Think I'll sneak in? Of course, the downfall will also affect the vassal states like Australia whose governments have hopped into bed with those cretins ... live on 10 acres here - making preparations ... eating popcorn .....
Pete M
I think there are a number of people ‘on high’ that are salivating at the thought of the USA breaking up much in the same way they do at the thought of the same thing happening to the Russian Federation at the moment, if those people can’t complete their Global order agenda either or would suit their own interests….
Moe Phufnik
Dmitry, like most Canadians, I am always interested in US developments (or devolution in this case), but would you have an opinion on the related and subsequent break-up of Canada?
Dmitry Orlov
Moe Phufnik, that's already happened. Most provinces trade more with the US than with each other. Most Canadians live within 15 miles of the border. Once the US disunites, Canada will automatically follow.
EEV
Question, pardon my ignorance, who is the US govt paying interest to? I know it's the fed, but who exactly runs the fed? Who gets all that money? Who owns our American asses?
Dmitry Orlov
EEV, the US gov't is paying that interest to you. If it stopped, imports would stop and you'd starve.
Erna Beetge
This can't happen fast enough. My blood is boiling over the Gaza genocide. By the way, if the United Snakes of America is no more, what happens to the 51st state? Will it become WASrael?