coyotte 

po vaj, No, I had just switched to the paid Gemini API completely. It's just miles better then any of the local alternatives and never refuses to caption images, no matter what I throw at it.

No Name, alright, I think I'm happy with the version I was working on now. Will release it in a couple of days

coyotte, take your time, bro

po vaj, I think you are confusing the new TOS with anima's licensing. I just read the new TOS dated May 28th, and there is nothing that claims that. Moreover, point 9.1 and 7 read "You retain any copyright and other proprietary rights that you may hold in the User Content that you Post to the Service..."

po vaj, I see three big problems with ideogram 4:
1) Non-commerial licensing, meaning no way to raise the funds to finetune the model (as it's quite expensive to finetune. Big scale loras are also a challenge. Single concept loras are fine). And that also means the users aren't allowed to sell their outputs.
2) The license explicitly states they will take action against violations (finetuning it for nsfw IS considered a violation). Point "Use Restrictions" reads "However, we may also implement certain safety measures, content protections and other technological measures for the Model, including content filters and watermarking, and you agree that you will not circumvent, remove, alter, deactivate, degrade or thwart any such measures"
Meaning everyone who does so are shooting themselves in the foot, as in best-case scenario their loras/models with loras merged in will get removed; in the worst-case scenario, they could face legal action from the company.

po vaj, 3) We should be careful about praising models with restrictive licenses. If we embrace them, we risk setting a precedent where every new 'open-weight' release feels entitled to impose these kinds of limitations. We’re essentially voting for a future where 'open' doesn't actually mean open.

TLDR: I REALLY don't think it's worth the risk.